Never change. SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Mecha Frieza Discussion in 'Manga/Anime Battledome' started by Geralt of Rivia, Dec 16, 2011. What do you think if he didn't loose energy. I think he was stronger than depicted, it's just that Trunks landed a mortal blow by surprise and Frieza had 0 chance to do better. I'm pretty sure Trunks would've chopped up organic Frieza the same way. but it is heavily implied that whatever power he was vs trunks, it was his max power. Not saying organic Frieza wins, but I don't see how you got he has worse durability showings than Mecha Frieza. Thus, Grey Buu is stronger... ...t forget they are actually genetically enhanced Jackson's Chameleons from before the war, not just mutants. He was said to have gotten stronger than he was on Namek. Kind of like how when fighting Raditz Goku's power level jumped up when he used his kamehameha. @thedarkpaladin: I wish they made it more clear. It's safe to say that he was stronger than he was on Namek. I literally claimed there wasn't enough evidence to be 100% which is very reasonable logic, unlike your own. Cooler is stronger than Frieza, thus he is stronger than King Cold. I didn't think Mecha wasn't stronger than 100%, just that they'd fight long enough till 100% loses enough power. We all know what the Viz Manga says and it's generally regarded as the Of course not. Freeza's ki and KC's ki is noted when they are about to appear on earth, It is noted that this ki is FAR, FAR superoir to vegeta / piccolo but nothing to 100% freeza level, Vegeta becoming more and more close to bulma - CHECK. Due to the damage that he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a … Join Community. Supernova was only seen in the anime, movies and Bardock special. but will he be able to fight him that long? Goku was >= freeza at that point, but mecha is fodder to namek SS level. Mecha Frieza is like the new and improved version of original Frieza, so I give it to him plus Frieza at 100% has shown not so good durability and has stamina issues. Maybe during his final attack. mecha frieza was a bit stronger then regular freiza but when he fought trunks I doubt that he was at full power since he would of put up a better fight against him umm well they need to fix his voice cuz it sounds like a girl in the english dub freiza's voice is done by a woman . Cyborg frieza wins. Also, how is freeza supposed to know that he "powered up"? Mecha-Frieza Was Stronger than He Was on Namek "Papa, if the two of us fight him together, we're sure to beat him." This topic is about the strength of King Cold, Mecha-Frieza, Trunks, and Goku. Then he used his supernova which Trunks was able to easily push back, but had to dodge it when it exploded. He shot another one that pushed Trunks back. Frieza was probably scared of him, if he knew of his e... Grey Buu is stronger. ...r is actually is stronger than Frieza. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . I'm almost 100% sure that 23rd TB piccolo is a completely different personality than saiyan arc piccolo - no emotions , no weakness to sacrificing his life for a kid of his enemy & android arc vegeta is WAY cockier than saiyan arc vegeta and namek arc vegeta. Mecha Frieza Edit. Frieza's personality seems to be a counter to Goku's lighthearted, charming, kind, and peaceful one, but it is unknown if this was done intentionally. That is completely illogical. Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. In this form, he appears as a cyborg version of his true form. Cold quickly kicks the opponent away, followed by Frieza who backflip-kicks him to the ground. I am literally just going to copy-paste my answer from another question (asking to rank 17, Gohan, Frieza, Vegeta, and Goku) here. Freeza was just some pieces floating in space for over 1 yr before he was turned into mecha, probably unconscious, and mecha freeza >>> pieces of freeza in space, so he might feel powered up even if he's nowhere near namek arc 100%. In the anime Frieza seemed to use more of his power. We all know how good the fight between freeza 100% and goku was. From the time he showed up during the Frieza Saga, he has been the most feared and hated villain in the entire franchise. He must have powered up at least a good deal when firing that blast at Trunks as he would have no reason to "go easy" after witnessing his transformation. Also it usually takes time for Frieza to fully power up. Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. @thedarkpaladin: Ya, IMO Frieza did something like what he did to ssj Goku. 0. So, you can't prove me wrong, and just call my arguments logical fallacies, when you can't back up anything you say with any evidence and rely on speculations, man, what a solid logic !!! Also there's that line with Gohan saying that Frieza could get much stronger. Mecha Frieza constantly mentions that he's new, improved, and stronger than before. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Who wins against Cooler vs Frieza… By Lavell Dec 08, 2019. 24.118.227.213 04:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Trunk, had become a Super Saiyan at least one other time before facing Frieza, so there was a little time before then, meaning he could’ve gotten a little stronger. Good for Piccolo and Vegeta. @overlordarthas: @sineyaprime: @redhood_jaytodd: Future trunks = Namek goku ONE SHOTTED mecha freeza. Weaker: Android 17. Gohan says Namek freeza 100% >>> Mecha freeza. Mechanical Frieza wins. It might be a hint that Frieza wasn't using all of his power. Saying that he didn't power up because it wasn't noted is using erroneous reasoning. The Cyborg version of Frieza, or his older brother? Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). Frieza, of course, would grow even stronger in Dragon Ball Super , even gaining a new Golden Form that puts him on the same level of power as Goku in Super Saiyan God Form. It's safe to say that he was stronger than he was on Namek. He wouldn't confront Goku, knowing how strong his Super Saiyan form is, without powering up. Share Share Tweet Email. While each new villain in the series is far stronger than the next, Frieza is the only one given the opportunity to improve, and given the opportunity, he becomes one of the strongest fighters in the universe. Can you also differentiate Death Ball from Super Nova? How can Namek saga Frieza be smarter than Mecha Frieza. mind showing any SINGLE power up which wasn't noted? It should be noted that the Dragon Ball Minus manga shows him blowing up planet Vegeta with a similar blast. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . He is willing to abandon the original plan to wait for Goku and he knows what an SSJ is capable of so there is no reason for him to hold back. So... the same argument from ignorance you were already called out on then? Only noted power ups in that arc were from SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku as far as I recall. It just wouldn't be logical. Mecha Frieza constantly mentions that he's new, improved, and stronger than before. Ehh, I still say Mecha Frieza takes this. Top. Man, this is a non-subbed full movie, and it's not easy to go through a video. I think the most likely scenario is his blast was powered up but he didn't raise his actual power level. Does that mean we know base Trunks didn't power down? Not to mention they're bigger, stronger, faster, and have longer claws than the Yao Guai.... Mg2+(aq) + 2e- = Mg(s) E° = - 2.37V Cl2(g) + 2e- = 2Cl-(aq) E° = + 1.36V... yes. As for the power sensing arguement, the Z-warriors don't say that there was a greater power than Frieza, they say there is a power as STRONG as Frieza, making them fairly equal in power. The death ball is either black or read, usually with electricity around it. (You'd think they'd even take into account the fact that he had likely trained, but I'm willing to let the revelation that they didn't slide.) Geralt of Rivia, Dec 16, 2011. Mecha Frieza could probably go 100% buff mode. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. @nishi99: Mecha Frieza is limited from powering up if he has that ability. Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. It's up for interpretation. Even if he lasts that long, he'd be severely damaged. @apex_pretador: Very nice. Messages: 9,370 Likes Received: 0 Trophy Points: 0 Joined: Aug 11, 2007 Reputation: Wasteland 100m This thread is a trap and I'm using it to prove a point later on. Every single powerup / powerdown was noted from that mini-arc, Almost every single minor detail was noted , especially in battle, everything was noted, BUT the only thing, which was not noted, is a speculation - where you assume without any evidence that freeza was suppressed and powered up to attack trunks, while no one notes, and everyone seems to ignore. it is differant in the anime and the manga but frieza blast that could kill vegita did little to trunks . To be fare power ups are usually noted in dragon ball, however it is possible he powered up. He wouldn't confront Goku, knowing how strong his Super Saiyan form is, without powering up. Yeah, I can't really see why Frieza would hold back after finding out that Trunks was an SSJ. Due to the damage he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. Cooler has one more transformation than Frieza.Yes due to Cooler passing to the next tranformation after which Frieza got. SSJ2 Gohan couldn't beat Majin Buu, but could beat Cell. Also, the blast wasn't any notable thing as it is "just" marking the start of the fight. Completely illogical? How strong is Metal Cooler actually? I seriously doubt Frieza would hold back at that point. It's left entirely up to speculation. In Dragon Ball, who is more powerful 100%, Frieza or Mecha frieza? 543 Anime Fans. Prove what wrong, your argument from ignorance? Neither, as they are not over nine thousand.... ...s stronger than Cell.Proof? I think the most likely scenario is his blast was powered up but he didn't raise his actual power level. It's known that Dabura was as strong as Cell, and Dabura was done in by Fat Buu, who was weaker then Grey Buu. If you don't like being called out on it, dont use fallacious logic. Even if he wasn't using 100% (no real way to know) then subject would be left entirely up to speculation. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. @apex_pretador: Another piece of evidence organic Frieza is stronger is that Sorbet acted like it was a good thing Frieza was brought back without mechanical parts. he knew all along he could become the most powerful being in the universe utterly unrivaled if he bothered to try, and train. We know what power freeza had at the time of attack, the same he had when landing (unless there is ANY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE against it). but he never wanted to try. He shot one ki blast, it did nothing. There is really no way to know for sure. ultimately Freeza is lazy. @overlordarthas: Frieza never abandoned his plan in the manga. Never change, Apex. just sit on his laurels and enjoy what he’d inherited. Regardless, we don't know for sure how much power Frieza uses when he attacked Trunks. So someone's personality can't change over time? @apex_pretador: Very nice. The clone of Frieza created by Gero is entirely loyal to it's creator, obeying every order. t0sh. Sure, it can. Gohan mentions Frieza is suppressed and there is never any mention of him powering up, however having him killed off not at full power doesn't make sense story telling wise. I kinda remember a scan of him saying he didnt need Cold's help since he increased his power he could kll Goku himself and wanting to show off his new power. it is differant in the anime and the manga but The point is, we can't be sure how much power he was using when he fired that blast. The Frieza clones created by Android 21 are mindless drones, only being aware of how to fight like their template. Future Gohan SSJ vs Mecha Frieza. What does that have to do with anything? I really don't see any other point in adding that line. Would be better if you just posted the quote. Ize's described as being roughly 100 times stronger than Frieza's Perfect Form. Also there's that line with Gohan saying that Frieza could get much stronger. @alextheboss: My bad. He normally has four forms, though he has an additional Mecha form, a Golden Form, and also a few additional video game exclusive forms. While his body was damaged in the aftermath of Planet Namek's destruction, Frieza is brought back from the brink of death as a cyborg. Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). Frieza kicks the horrified opponent again, who tries to get up. Unless 100% Frieza can finish the fight while he still has the endurance, Mecha all the way. So, it didn't happen. You literally said that Frieza didn't power up because it was never noted... That's what we logical thinkers like to call a logical fallacy. Death Ball is the attack he used to destroy Namek. Kind of like how when fighting Raditz Goku's power level jumped up when he used his kamehameha. To be fare power ups are usually noted in dragon ball, however it is possible he powered up. — Frieza talking to Zarbon about exterminating the Saiyan race after King Vegeta's rebellion. Also whenever Frieza powers up it is shown. @thedarkpaladin: I wish they made it more clear. Do you know the Answer Please Sign-in Or register in order Answer this question? @apex_pretador: Yup, I think so. Who's stronger, Super Perfect Cell or Grey Buu? Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). King Cold has been stated to be stronger than both Frieza and Cooler, ... After the short speech Mecha Frieza dashes towards the enemy with his head in the stomach, while King Cold flies up high. 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