Measuring out each charge of loose powder and fiddling with a box of balls and a tin of caps isn’t for everybody. reproduction cap and ball revolver shooters. I didn't look but I'd be surprised if they didn't make them in .36 as well. They also have the side benefit of making you look that much cooler with your black powder revolver on the range or in the field. Reproduction cartridges for sale below For collectors, Civil War enthusiasts, and all Colt~Remington Uberti, ~Pietta, etc. Why am I confused here? I have been carrying a Kimber M1911 concealed for about 25 years. Black powder revolvers are fun to shoot, but loading them isn’t always the case. Even if I don't personally use this information, it still benefits me in understanding these Sharps rifles I so love. Some of these were made with the thinnest, most delicate tissue paper, like cartridges for the Colt revolver, while others were made with a flammable “skin” over the powder. a crumpled paper towel, to get them from point A to point B. These fully functional and accurate combustible paper cartridges are facsimiles of the paper cartridges and packets issued during the American Civil War. All the paper did was act as a wadding between the charge and ball. The cartridge seam is sealed with sodium silicate (water glass). Each black powder cartridge is hand rolled. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jun 16, 2017. Finally getting serious about combustible paper cartridges for my Pietta 1860s. Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by TruthTellers, Dec 19, 2015. All packed in a handy little case. Kit comes with papers and precut bases for rolling cartridge tubes, as well as formers, measures, a funnel, glue and some homemade bullet lube. Custom made paper cartridge maker designed for the Colt Cartridge Works 36, Johnson and Dow 44, Eras Gone 31 conical, Eras Gone Dragoon, or Roundball in 31, 36 or 44 calibers. Please rate the video and subscribe if you like it! Thank's!! Be the first to review this product! Setting that aside, take a pre-cut piece of tissue paper and glue the shortest end as well as the angled section. A 1/2-inch dowel would be more sufficient. It's an authentic looking method, unlike some other ways to do this. I use equal parts of water to kno3. Now that you have your load, its time to assemble the supplies to put it in paper, literally. Also a coloidian shell with powder inside. I quickly learned that the dowel was too small to begin with, with a .440-inch diameter. Please read revolver manufacturer's safety manual and use common sense safety precautions. Tapered cartridge is made with rice paper treated with potassium nitrate solution and contains.454 Hornady swaged ball, 22 grains Goex FFFg black powder. The combustible cartridges, at the time constructed of nitrated paper, was and still is the most convenient way to load these guns in a hurry. 8) After going back through all the related posts made here since the forum started, I felt I had learned enough to give it a try. Two projectiles used for this experiment. In this video we'll make some. Three different six round packets (18 rounds total) of nitrated paper cartridges with copies of labels from Watervliet Arsenal, D.C. Sage & Co., and Colt's Cartridge Works. Well, I made some! pellets just for the purpose of premade cartidges attached to mini ball. black-powder muzzleloaders. If you have shot your handgun recreationally, it is important to know the proper powder charge and bullet diameter for adequate power and to guard against chain-firing of all the chambers at once. Chassepot paper cartridge (1866). Dixie gun Works sells .44 cartridges made of combustible rice paper. They fit perfectly, and the little tail makes it easy to remove a cartridge. Wrap the short end around the base of the toilet paper and pull the long end across the mandrel until it wraps around the thick section of the mandrel. (Photo: Terril James Herbert). Three different six round packets (18 rounds total) of nitrated paper cartridges with copies of labels from Watervliet Arsenal, D.C. Sage & Co., and Colt's Cartridge Works. Looks just like the original cartridges, but of course these won't fit into the cartridge boxes I ordered. Another was pressed powder pellet with either a paper or coloidian impregnated paper covering. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. (Photo: Terril James Herbert). 149 Posts . Curling hair paper is easy to come by at any beauty shop and burns completely in the chambers. I used paper cartridges in my .72 flintlock NW Trade Gun. It should also work great for the use of making paper cartridges. In my previous video I showed how to load a revolver with the paper cartridges. Dissolve this in a small quantity of hot water until no more will dissolve. AMMO-36-CPC-6 Combustible Paper Cartridge Ammunition, for .36 caliber percussion revolvers, period labeling, box of six. MidwayUSA no longer sells their own branded plastic boxes, but they do sell plastic boxes from MTM and National Metallic in different colors and capacities (50 or 100). Rolling the Cartridge Lay paper on a flat surface, with the acute angle pointing forward and left. (See … Making the paper template. It's for my 54 cal Blunderbuss but I thought I'd try to make one to see if it was even possible. Pretty good content on BP stuff. No rifling eliminated the need to keep fouling soft with grease on the patch. Yes, there were true “fully combustible cartridges” in the sense that we use the word today, such as those made by Johnston & Dow or The Hazard Powder Company. - I have pre-loaded both 'Holy Smoke' black-powder and some Triple 7 (FFF) 'replica' powder charges for manual loading - but I've also made a start trying to build some combustible paper cartridges.. - These paper cartridges are tricky as the nitrated cigarette papers are flimsy. A package of this ammunition would be an excellent choice to be displayed with a.44 caliber percussion revolver in a fitted display box. When I’m ready to load the revolver, I put the hammer on half-cock, drop the cartridge into a chamber, rotate the cylinder until the ball is under the ram, ram the ball down into the chamber, then throw away the paper tail after I is cut off. A properly nitrated paper leaves little or no ash and residue from the paper. Thank you for your generosity and thoughtfulness. Fragility aside, I think I will stick to these paper cartridges. I used Raw Classic King Size Slim rolling papers. I use an approximately 1/2 inch x 1/2 foot amount of toilet paper, either one or two ply, to serve as the back-end of the cartridge. Well, this week he released a video on a Paper Cartridge Kit that he’s producing for .36 and .44 caliber. They will survive an impact with the ground, but they should be packed tightly when transporting. Get Guns.com offers and news, Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 ©2019 Guns.com. - These paper cartridges are tricky as the nitrated cigarette papers are flimsy. Take your bullet or ball of choice and grease it with your glue stick. I have been expirementing with making my own 44 cal. Ignition was 100 percent! © 2020 Pete's Vintage Guns and Ammo LLC | Sitemap The Tinman's Manual, and Builder’s and Mechanic’s Handbook instructions for making the frustrum of a cone (1863). I used Raw Classic King Size Slim rolling papers. Here is some general data that may be used as a stepping stone: Small, pocket revolvers like the 1849 Colt and the Colt Baby Dragoon are .31 caliber and therefore have very small chambers allowing for no more than 15 grains of powder with enough room to seat a ball. From that point, I carved it down to a taper. .330 inch buckshot is a cheap and effective way to get a tight fit and the most accuracy out of these little guns. The offering is another quality product from CCI, who already create some of the best .22 LR ammo around. www.hc-collection.com HIGHLY COMBUSTIBLE ENVELOPE CARTRIDGE.36’’ et .44’’ HIGHLY COMBUSTIBLE ENVELOPE CARTRIDGE 44-100 & 36-100 H &C By Charlie Hahn in forum Wanted/For Sale Items Replies: 0 Last Post: 04-30-2010, 05:47 PM. Black Powder Revolver Paper Cartridge Maker. These cartridges boxes are the close reproductions of the original packages for combustible envelope cartridges. Nice display items to fill out a cased set and also pretty interesting at the range. .44" Calibre Combustible Paper Cartridges: Using Zig-Zag " Rice Paper " rolling papers to form combustibles may be a good idea - but that thin nitrated paper is a worry to work with. I’ve always heard great things about old Colt revolvers, and let’s just say this gun made me think twice about my stance on revolvers. Joined: Aug 15, 2015 Messages: 1,075. The cardboard sleeve is manufactured on a nearly 100 years old Heildelberg Windmill letterpress machine. The chambers will generally allow up to 25 grains of black powder, though 20 is more typical and a load I like to use. The .36 caliber pistols are far more common and popular than the 31 and generally utilize a .375-.380-inch diameter bullet. No need to soke the paper just dip. Three different six round packets (18 rounds total) of nitrated paper cartridges with copies of labels from Watervliet Arsenal, D.C. Sage & Co., and Colt's Cartridge Works. Packet labels vary. Homemade paper cartridges. But what about that toilet paper? The most popular percussion revolvers today are the .44s, which actually are .45 caliber. We promise to never spam you, and just use your email address to identify you as a valid customer. Condition is New. An off hand 12 shot cluster at 7 yards using a .454″ ball over 30 grains of powder utilized in paper cartridges. Powered by BigCommerce, 36 Caliber Combustible Paper Revolver Cartridges in Packets, Winchester Western 32 Smith & Wesson Blank Cartridges, Peters Quick Shot 32 Cal. This should leave just a thin bit of curling paper for the cap to burn through. I use hair curling paper because nitrated paper is expensive to make and cigarette paper leaves too much residue and unburned paper in the chambers. My Catagory I am going to compete in classic cowboy category, using the rule of cool I have ordered two of the biggest pieces of shooting irons a man can get. Making Combustible Paper Cartridges for Black Powder Revolvers 0. Rolling a cartridge with unnitrated paper. (Photo: Terril James Herbert). This paper is called nitrated paper, as it is manufactured by soaking it in a solution of potassium nitrate and then drying it. Water needs to be brought to a boil and everything in solution. The earlier … Shipping is included in the price. Do not smoke while handling. AMMO-44-CPC-6 Combustible Paper Cartridge Ammunition, for .44 caliber percussion revolvers, packaged in period style, package of six. Gun Review: Going the Distance with the Kimber Rapide Black Ice 10mm. After a few tries and wasted rolling papers, I finally made a fully combustible shot cartridge. Tapered cartridge is made with rice paper treated with potassium nitrate solution and contains .454 Hornady swaged ball, 22 grains Goex FFFg black powder. Some of the earliest Hazard company combustible cartridges were just a powder pellet glued to the bullet base then dipped in bees wax. The Combustible Paper Revolver Cartridge, Before the 1870’s most revolvers operated with what was called the “cap and ball” system. These fully functional and accurate combustible paper cartridges are facsimiles of the paper cartridges and packets issued during the American Civil War. The loads used back then were in most cases a bit stiffer than … Combustible paper cartridges, where the whole thing is inserted, are only practical in breech loaders like the Sharps, or cap and ball revolvers. The same reason you can?t use paper with a muzzleloading long arm (musket, carbine, Smoothbore). Rolling a nitrated paper cartridge. Each black powder cartridge is hand rolled. A brace of 1847 colt walkers from Uberti. These allow you to see whether the “combustible” paper is still smoldering in the chamber before adding another cartridge. Loading these old style fighting guns in this manner is a learning experience and you get to tailor your loads to your needs, but it isn’t necessarily convenient and it does give something of a false impression of history. After doing a little research I have stumbled on the subject of combustible paper cartridges. The paper cartridge is now completed and ready to be loaded into the revolver. Run a glue stick down the edge of the perm paper and wrap around the dowel rod, gluing it to the end cap, and making a tube. Each contains a .454 Hornady round ball and 28 grains Goex FFFg black powder wrapped in rice paper treated with potassium nitrate solution. Stay in the know. Hi I am new to N-SSA skirmishing but not revolver shooting. Re: Combustible Paper Cartridges with Round Ball « Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 08:40:39 PM » I have used tea bags and just twisted the ends and they fired reliably with no paper left in the chambers but to me they're too tedious to make. Kit comes with papers and precut bases for rolling cartridge tubes, as well as formers, measures, a funnel, glue and some homemade bullet lube. So here's a couple of pictures of a few that I made, and a little explanation of how I went about it. This meant that each chamber was loaded with loose powder, a bullet, and a percussion cap was placed on the nipple of each … A package of six combustible paper cartridges for .44 caliber percussion revolvers. Though quite a bit of experimentation, I came up with a way to make combustible paper cartridges on the cheap–no fancy … All Rights Reserved, How to make combustible paper cartridges (VIDEO). This is a VERY FINE condition original packet of six .36 caliber combustible cartridges manufactured by the D.C. Sage Company of Middletown, CT. and produced specifically for “Whitney’s Navy Pistol.”The cartridges are contained in a wooden block, which is wrapped in brown paper with a block printed label that reads in seven lines: 100 Cartridge Tubes measuring 2”x .44”. I have had good luck with .319-inch balls in Remington Pocket Models and .323 inch in the Colts. With the mandrel ready, it was time to make a template for the cartridge skins. These fully functional and accurate combustible black powder paper cartridges are facsimiles of the original cartridges and packets issued during the Civil War! We spent six months and turned the corner of the recommend break-in round count on the striking Kimber Rapide Black Ice in 10mm Auto and have some things to report. I have been playing with these made from cigarette paper using a flat nose lead bullet in my 36's. Price: $16.95. Six combustible cartridges per box.375" Hornady lead ball reproduction cap and ball revolver shooters. The thin end of the taper came out to .90 inches. By jaxenro in forum Shooting Techs, Tips, & Tricks Replies: 15 Last Post: 10-20-2013, 08:38 AM. I wrapped them around a 1/2 inch wooden dowel and ran a glue stick along the outside and inside edge. These are new reproduction packets contain fully functioning and accurate combustible cartridges that are facsimiles of the original cartridges and packets issued during the Civil War. Constructed of brown crêpe paper for an authentic look, strength and for a clean burn. Highly combustible paper. You will need: Schematics and materials for the job. These fully functional and accurate combustible paper cartridges are virtually identical to the original cartridge and packet issued during the Civil War. The first step of making paper cartridges is having the necessary load data pertinent to your particular revolver. 8.4.12 HOW TO MAKE COMBUSTIBLE PAPER CARTRIDGES Harry Eales Making nitrated paper isn't difficult, all you need is a few ounces of Potassium Nitrate. Posted July 3, 2019 Fill and twist closed. Tél 09 71 31 05 35. contact@hc-collection.com . The packet envelope is cut from heavy kraft paper, double lacquered for water resistance, labelled with a copy of an original maker's label, and tied with tea stained cotton string. Early models of the Sharps rifle, notably the 1859 and 1863 models, were breech loading using either loose black powder or paper cartridges. Using the template, I produce the hair curling paper by the stack and cut it to shape, using the template as a guide. Combustible paper revolvers cartridges Portions of the N-SSA official website's Bulletin Board has been closed to the public in the best interest of the association and its members. 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